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- Editor's Note: Minutes received 7/30
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- CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
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- Reported by Constance Fleenor Lloyd/Lloyd and Associates
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- Minutes of the Point-to-Point Protocol Extensions Working Group (PPPEXT)
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- Brian Lloyd opened the meeting stating that there is a small problem
- with with proceeding with RFC 1334 (Authentication) that he hoped to
- clear up this week in a meeting he had scheduled with Steve Kent of the
- IAB.
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- General
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- Collectively, RFCs 1331, 1332, 1333, and 1334 will completely replace
- RFCs 1171, and 1172.
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- Document Status
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- Appletalk, and OSI documents are currently at last call. Copies of the
- Appletalk document can be obtained from Brad Parker.
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- A show of hands was requested for how many are building routers. About
- twelve hands were raised, and a second show of hands indicated about
- nine were planning on CLNP. It was stated that these people need to read
- the document (ietf.drafts.pppext.osi.txt).
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- TELEBIT PPP-a-thon
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- Mark Lewis reviewed the results of the PPP-a-thon, in which ten vendors
- made their various PPP options interoperate. Vendors mapped protocols
- to media, and implementations.
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- Work done at the PPP-a-thon resulted in an update to RFC 1220;
- clarifying negotiation of all mac types. The wording in RFC 1220 is not
- clear on results of mac negotiations. The proposal is to yank mac type,
- and LAN type from 1220, and add option to state mac address to the RFC.
- Fred Baker, the author of RFC 1220, is going to make the changes to the
- RFCs.
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- Another PPP-a-thon is planned for the week prior to Fall INTEROP '92.
- This will also serve as a hot stage for the INTEROP PPP demo/solutions
- showcase which is planned if Brian Lloyd can get confirmation from at
- least 15 vendors for participation. It is hoped that some new
- implementations will be available for this week.
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- INTEROP PPP Solutions Showcase Demo
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- If enough vendors sign for participation there will be a PPP demo at
- INTEROP. Charge for participation in the INTEROP PPP demo will be
- $4,000. Brian Lloyd feels that a centralized demonstration is best,
- rather than the distributed demo of 1990. The demo booth should be as
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- self-contained as possible. All possible aspects of PPP would be part
- of the demo; dial-up, and leased-line asynchronous; synchronous 56K to
- T3; switched services including dial-in ISDN, and switched 56; etc.
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- Enough participants present at the meeting confirmed interest in the
- INTEROP demo to provide the required 15 vendors.
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- LAPB, and Compression
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- Fred Baker led discussion on the subject of LAPB, and compression;
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- There was lively discussion on using more than one compression algorithm
- concurrently; and if so should one NCP identifier be used, or
- subprotocol identifiers.
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- Note: The issues were later addressed in BOFs, resulting in consensus
- on a complete compression configuration protocol. Fred Baker is writing
- a draft document that describes the compression mechanisms and
- negotiations.
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- IPX
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- Chris Ranch, from Novell, led discussion on IPX over PPP. Novell is
- publishing an information RFC on IPXWAN; available via ftp novell.com.
- IPXWAN will be essential for interoperability with Netware.
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- They will work on IPXCP options for a paper that will obsolete IPXWAN in
- the future.
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- Twelve people raised their hands when Chris asked who is doing IPXWAN
- with PPP.
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- A small group consisting of Mark Lewis, Bill Simpson, Brian Lloyd, Glenn
- McGregor, and Chris Ranch met with Marty DelVechio at Shiva in a BOF to
- discuss Bill Simpson's document that attempts to converge the Shiva and
- Novell NCP documents. Bill Simpson will modify his convergence document
- based on the results of the discussions at the BOF and repost it.
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- DECNET
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- Craig Fox led discussion on the DECNET draft. He made some changes to
- the explanatory passages in the draft, removed a section, and moved a
- section of text. The text was posted as a new draft the next day.
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- 116/32 Bit FCS
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- Tony Lauck said that DEC, in compliance with standards policy, will
- charge a ``reasonable'' fee to use for DEC's 48 bit FCS. Numbers on the
- order of $1,000 or more were bandied about by Mr. Lauck. This was not
- well received by the Group. The general consensus is to seek a
- different mechanism to negotiate 16/32 bit FCS. Both Craig Fox and Karl
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- Fox suggested mechanisms based on sending two initial configuration
- requests using both 16 and 32 bit FCS. A new document that does not make
- use of any of the DEC mechanisms is likely.
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- MIBs
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- Frank Kastenholz described how the single large MIB document had been
- divided into separate MIB documents to match with the existing LCP, NCP,
- LQM, and authentication documents. He asked if there were any
- objections to submitting MIBs for Proposed Standard. There were no
- significant objections.
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- Attendees
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- Steve Alexander stevea@i88.isc.com
- Sam Ayers s.ayers@sybus.com
- Fred Baker fbaker@acc.com
- Jim Barnes barnes@xylogics.com
- Luc Boulianne lucb@cs.mcgill.ca
- Steve Buchko stevebu@newbridge.com
- David Carr dcarr@gandalf.ca
- Greg Celmainis gregc@newbridge.com
- Dean Cheng dean@sun2.retix.com
- Chris Chiotasso chris@artel.com
- Henry Clark henryc@oar.net
- James Cobban jcobban@bnr.ca
- Andy Davis andy@spider.co.uk
- Marty Del Vecchio marty@shiva.com
- Pierre Dupont dupont@mdd.comm.mot.com
- Robert Finn rfinn@wellfleet.com
- Constance Fleenor Lloyd cfleenor@lloyd.com
- Craig Fox foxcj@network.com
- Scott Ginsburg ginsburg@wellfleet.com
- Martin Gray mg@spider.co.uk
- Chris Gunner gunner@dsmail.enet.dec.com
- James Harville jbh@unh.edu
- Dwight Jamieson djamies@bnr.ca
- Bob Jeckell rrj@3com.com
- Frank Kastenholz kasten@ftp.com
- David Kaufman
- Alan Kullberg akullber@bbn.com
- David Kumpf kumpf@hprnd.rose.hp.com
- Anthony Lauck lauck@tl.enet.dec.com
- Gordon Lee gordon@ftp.com
- Mark Lewis mlewis@telebit.com
- Brian Lloyd brian@lloyd.com
- Keith Mader keith@microcom.com
- Glenn McGregor ghm@merit.edu
- Greg Minshall minshall@wc.novell.com
- Mary Christine O'Connor oconnor@interlan.com
- Larry Palmer larry%acts@uunet.uu.net
- J. Bradford Parker brad@cayman.com
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- Jay Pasco-Anderson jay@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com
- Lars Poulsen lars@cmc.com
- Venkat Prasad vsp@3com.com
- Christopher Ranch cranch@novell.com
- John Shriver jas@proton.com
- William Simpson Bill_Simpson@um.cc.umich.edu
- Mark Smith mcs@umich.edu
- Chris Sullivan mm@gandalf.ca
- Richard Sweatt rsweatt@synoptics.com
- Kannan Varadhan kannan@oar.net
- Gregory Vaudreuil gvaudre@nri.reston.va.us
- John Veizades veizades@apple.com
- Jesse Walker walker@eider.lkg.dec.com
- Scott Wasson sgwasson@eng.xyplex.com
- James Watt jamesw@newbridge.com
- Luanne Waul luanne@wwtc.timeplex.com
- Honda Wu natadm!honda@uunet.uu.net
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